We have too many LIBERAL Repbulicans including our governor who embrace the Junk Science of Global warming, support the bail out, open borders, and PORK. How can we get beyond the committees and party enablers of these vile types!?

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actually I seldom ever see people that beleive like any of us do ( America, Constitution, anti Socialist etc) seperate into groups.It is only the outsiders that determine if Shelly is a Rino and Dolly is a Conserv. or Bam Bam is a Democrat, We dont really care because we like the label American. The Socialist indocternated people are having tags ingrained into them and that is a root of Communism

In Europe they seldom discussed the levels of people untill they seperated the Jews. They are a race most of the European countries detested because the Governments encouraged it. Later the Commie developed the workers and the members of the peoples Party. China had the Royalty and the peasants. In both those cases the rich were considered the Evil and they must be over ran. Sound familiar ? We have the poor , middle class , the higher earners and the Elite. Obama and his movement want to remove the High earners and claim to remove the poor--elite is no touchable

So with this tag system they try to break us down and by doing so they have created groups of us to try to have us go against our different groups. Just like the author of this Topic intended us to go for the throat of the Rino and most of us are saying who cares what any one thinks of a Rino. We dont even have a definition for Rino amongst ourselves--the Socialist do and can find it in wikipedia for sure. We dont care if Bill is a Rino or Debbie is a Federalist or Julio is a Democrat. Thats right we are Democrats also! Divide and conquer will not work with true Americans like us

So take your little Rino theory and go tell it on the Mountain, we dont care, if they are doing the best to thier ability to reinforce the American Way , so be it. If we think someone can do better we will elect that person. We dont care about Dynasty or name ( or if they are Rino)
Yes, global warming is junk science. Al Gore is currently being sued by 30,000 scientists (that number is not a typo haha)...
To get them out of office, do it like any other - vote 'em out! In the primaries, get behind a solid conservative Republican & get his message out. When they're defeated in the primaries, others will take notice. Consistently & regularly communicate with your representatives, & influence others to do the same. We will always have representatives who need encouragement, a reminder of who "brung 'em to the dance."
Don't vote for a Rino. This is hard because a lot of voters believe that the worst Rino is a smidgen better than a flaming liberal. But if they vote like Dems, why not un-elect them? Might force them to join the Dems where they belong anyway.

Until conservatives have standards in voting, we will only have more Rinos.

Losing may not be all that bad because it gives us an opportunity to rebuild. Most Republicans who lose are Rinos anyway.
Indentify them through their voting records and vote them out. When they run for election pay attention to things like surveys and candidate forums. We have to stop voting for anybody with an R next to their name,you are not doing the party or for that matter the country any good when you vote for anybody that calls themselves a Republican but votes like a socialist/marxist.
Hrmph you won't listen to reason will you. Do you believe Al Gore and his nonsense?

Watch this from the founder of the weather channel:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FfHW7KR33IQ

Of course follow the evidence can you look at weather history beyond 150 years Unlike Gore the Charlatan! If you can then the proof shoudl be enough. If not then exame the blast and results of Mt. St. Helens I'm not going to be abel to give all the evidence in a few blog posts here. again go to http://m4gw.com and READ THE BLOG keep going back it goes for months get educated. What does a carbon credit do for anything? Our own stupid governor won't admit CO2 is natural building block of life and he's a REPUBLICAN too!

AS far as illegals & the border go. sanction employers and ditto to what you said and they will deport themselves along with ending the freedbies, health care, schooling, financial aid etc. If you stop it they will go! Also ENglish the official language and that isn't racist.

learn more here: http://federalgovernmentjobs.us/jobs/Border-Patrol-Agent-1355238.html

if they would only do their job... We probably do agree also another friends site: http://www.mnsirproject.com/



Rosk said:
Joe 6 pack,
again, what is your scientific evidence of global warming? Anecdotes without sources just doesn't count. Your friends site has some interesting information and I don't agree with politicizing the weather, but I don't think we have to blow off scientific studies without listening to their reasoning and even their proof. Personally, I think it's likely natural cycles the Earth is experiencing, but again, do we have to just blow people off like they are wackos just because we don't agree with them? That makes us, conservatives and GOP voters, seem like nuts ourselves.

Additionally, I work in the legal field, I've read the Constitution numerous times, but I've never, ever seen a passage regarding "open borders" or "illegal immigrants". Can you point me to the precise Article so I could better understand where you are coming from?
In fact, I think I do know where you're coming from. I agree with you more than you would think. I'm all in favor of building a wall from the Pacific to the Gulf of Mexico. Also, I've got no problem bolstering the Border Patrol with Nat. Guard. But, I think its impossible to round up 10-15 million illegals currently living here and shipping them home. It sounds too much like some middle-20th Century European plan, a la Germany or Russia. They are here and we should work hard to assimilate them into our culture, while at the same time securing the border to keep it sealed tight against future waves of illegals.

joe 6 pack said:
Mr. Rosk, well go to a good friend of mines website for starters http://m4gw.com for a 101 primer then get back to me. other then the arctic is growing, volcanoes emit more CO2 then man could ever hope to, and we used to have vinyards in Canada "hence the vikings name for it, Vinland" should be a starter.

What are the problem with open borders? Wow Do you what makes up a country, economy, and what the constitution says about it. Read the CONSTITUTION and get back to me on this one too.

Rosk said:
A few questions. How do you know global warming is junk science? Also, what are the problems from open borders? I know bailout mania and pork are big problems, I agree with you there. The other two issues, I think I know the problem with those, but I wonder what you think they are.
Sorry but I rather have a RINO than A DEM. McCain would have been better than Obama. Now we have to fight the majority in Congress and the Executive versus having just fought some of the Executive and the Majority on Congress. Conservatives need to stop crying about the results of the primary, and focus on having the ideal candidate hand picked before the primaries so we can fight for him before the primaries. McCain took advantage of having so many "conservative" candidates fight against each other. I would be for the American Conservative Union or CPAC endorsing one candidate before the primary. No more RINO's for Prez
This is a great subject and one we all seem to have to agonize over each election term. I would like to say out with the scoundrels, but one has to look at the particular district they are running from. Who makes up the majority of voters and there are times we have to hold our nose and vote. It is a very frustrating situation and I really do not know if the true answer is to stand tall as a conservative and bring the message to the voters and let them decided.
Right on Kristin...we should focus first on defeating democrats who will likely be 100% against our positions and governing philosophy. I would much rather have a "RINO" who supports my position 50% of the time than a democrat who never supports my position. This is particularly important in Washington as the majority party pretty much sets the agenda and runs all the committees. It is a waste of time to go RINO hunting when you are the minority party.

Kristin said:
You know, labeling people as "RINOs" is counterproductive. This is precisely the attitude that has caused the GOP to lose this election. I'm a small-government, financially conservative Republican. I'm pro-military, against gun bans, against abortion yet, I'm all right with gay marriage, for promoting responsible sexuality (i.e. not abstinence only) to teenagers, for moves that would decriminalize certain amounts of marijuana (which is truly in the best interest of streamlining the justice system.) etc. My beliefs have been carefully reasoned and well thought out, and it's led me to ultimately believe that the Republican Party is the better party. I don't think this makes me any less of a Republican than others and I resent indications that I should be excluded because I don't fall into lock-step extremes. I volunteered for the McCain campaign for 8 months and have been involved in Republican groups for about a year or two now.
It's time for those of us who are politically active to grow up and get past this cliquey, "you're not a real Republican" attitude. I'm not saying that the party needs to be expanded to include those who are mostly liberal or truly liberal, but there needs to be a place for more moderate Republicans in the party. Alienating people the people who support you is not beneficial to anyone.
I agree with the strategy of defeating democrats first and then hopefully the RINO's will fall in line or be voted out. We conservatives need to make sure that they (RINO"S) know that they are on notice. We need to start emailing, calling, faxing them in greater numbers and put pressure on them to promote conservative principals. I have been disgusted by most republicans the last 4 years while they hid under the bed like a bunch of wimps from the rabid dog Pelosi & co. and the main stream media.
I've read in a couple or few posts the idea that since in some areas you cannot get a real true conservative Republican elected a RINO is better than a Dem.,how so? They talk like a Dem.,they vote like a Dem.,the only thing that keeps them from being labeled a Dem. is that they are registered as a Republican. What have we gained other than to water down the party? If they're a RINO,vote them out,and that of course means running someone against them in the primaries that is a true Republican. I think that you have to give people a clear choice,and why should they vote for Democrat/liberal lite when they can have the real thing? Until you show the RINOs that they will not get elected as a Republican,they will keep running and frankly destroying this party. If someone runs as a true conservative and then morphs into a liberal once in office vote them out the next time. Don't contribute to the campaigns of RINOs,and frankly until the Republican party starts taking a harder line against them don't contribute there either. It's time We the People took our party back(and so doing our country as well).

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