Mark Sanford - the Future for the GOP - NO JINDAL - TRUE CONSERVATIVISM

[Matthew]

this is the kind of Conservative the party needs.

please viw this video to understand my point, The Southern Avenger talks about the future for the GOP and how we DONT need a Jindal


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kJX2AkAzsko

[Young Jeffersonian Republican]

Thank you for posting that video! I have been saying that exact same thing now for a long time now, and it's good to see Conservative talk radio hosts speaking on behalf of the more liberty-minded Sanford while chastising the more authoritarian Jindal as being nothing more than the status quo, establishment candidate (which he is) which lost us the past few elections.

"Insanity is doing the same thing over and over again, and expecting different results" -Albert Einstein

[Uburalus]

Marc Sanford,I'll have to find out more about him. Good video. Oh and the government should back out of healthcare not get more involved,it's government intervention that has made it as expensive as it is.

Private-Sector Health Care Leads the Way

Daily Article by Chris Brown | Posted on 12/3/2008

It is easy to criticize the US healthcare system, but we should be clear on one thing: it is not "free market" or "private" healthcare. A free market in healthcare would be more efficient and innovative, and offer better quality products and services, with lower prices than is currently the case.

In addition to the US government's obvious socialist interventions with programs such as Medicare and Medicaid, there are a multitude of other measures that hinder innovation in healthcare — and we can expect only increased involvement under ObamaCare.
Read the rest of the article at ( http://mises.org/story/3233 )

[Terrence Abrams]

Guys, with all due respect to you, and none for "Stranded DND Windbag".... don't you all see that a compromise position, just a slight one, uniting this man AND Jindal would wipe out our competition?

Pat Buchanan can be one bright guy, but also gets the party in trouble too, keep him on an advisory status, ok?

[tyler sims]

Agreed.

I have put up a sanford 2012 group.

Everyone please join and lets push this candidate to the top right now.

[tyler sims]

This is very sensible mix. Sanford/Jindal

Likewise we need to be readying Palin to take on Clinton in case she runs down the road.

Terrence Abrams said:

Guys, with all due respect to you, and none for "Stranded DND Windbag".... don't you all see that a compromise position, just a slight one, uniting this man AND Jindal would wipe out our competition?

Pat Buchanan can be one bright guy, but also gets the party in trouble too, keep him on an advisory status, ok?

[Michael Brennan]

Sanford is ok, but he will not get enough GOP votes to be the Candidate, he would make a great VP first until he has national name recognition. Jindal is to green to be anything right now but in 2012 he might be the go to guy. Palin is the current front runner whether we like it or not. Ron Paul was dead in the water in 2000 and that won't change. True, Buchanan should only be a talking head, not a candidate. Gingrich would have been the best to run had he not given up in the House. DeLay was not found guilty, he was phenominal.

In my opinion (yes opinion) the current front runners (Palin, Romney & Huckabee) will most likely gain the most media support and moderate mainstream GOP support. With that taken they might be in the best position to run in 2012 even though they do not fall under the entire conservative role to all labelled conservatives.

[tyler sims]

In do respect Sarah Palin is no where near ready and it would be a huge political messup to waste here on the 2012 election. She is too green. Her image being damaged would leave the door for clinton to have no nemesis in the situation of 2016/2020.

Clinton is sitting in the wings gaining resume experience being sec. of state. The most logical path for Sarah, who i respect, would be to finish her governor term and save herself for the battle of the century against clinton. This is her perfect match. As is Sanford for Obama. We have perfect line ups. If we play the cards wrong we loose multiple election options. We for once need to go back to figuring out how to win elections rather than split into factions that wont help each other.

Once a candidate looses they are branded and the public persuasion is lost. Palin needs to work out of the media rut, gain experience(like sec of state), and let someone very experienced like Sanford be the candidate in 2012. A solid president to work under will make her glow for the future. Sanford's record is far, far superior to hers. One VP run is not enough to fill in years of Washington knowledge and experience that Sanford has. Jindal is young but similarly has that type of experience to leverage on as vp. Else Huckabee is another vp choice, etc.

I look at it this way:

2012 sanford vs obama...victory sanford

Cabinet
vp choices: Jindal, Romney, Huckabee, Palin, etc...
Sec of State: Huckabee and Palin
Sec of commerce: Romney
Sec of Treasury: Paul
Sec of Defense: Hunter
Sec of Homeland Sec: Tancredo

We must build a super team to pull the party up by the bootstraps. Palin can not lead this team in 2012. She must be groomed. Personally Huckabee as VP and she as Sec of State seem very ideal in this model.

But Sarah must be saved to counter clinton, not obama...timing is everything here.

Sanford is the perfect match to the whole party wants on all levels. Frankly i like sarah, but know she is not going to pull the whole party together even in 3/4 years time. But against clinton she will.

Michael Brennan said:

Sanford is ok, but he will not get enough GOP votes to be the Candidate, he would make a great VP first until he has national name recognition. Jindal is to green to be anything right now but in 2012 he might be the go to guy. Palin is the current front runner whether we like it or not. Ron Paul was dead in the water in 2000 and that won't change. True, Buchanan should only be a talking head, not a candidate. Gingrich would have been the best to run had he not given up in the House. DeLay was not found guilty, he was phenominal.
In my opinion (yes opinion) the current front runners (Palin, Romney & Huckabee) will most likely gain the most media support and moderate mainstream GOP support. With that taken they might be in the best position to run in 2012 even though they do not fall under the entire conservative role to all labelled conservatives.

[Jason]

I think a Sanford Presidency is the only way Ron Paul would consider the Treasury job.

[Michael Brennan]

How can Sanford win if half the country doesn't know him or care about him. In the Northeast and midwest Sanford is marginal at best. You are looking at close to 120-180 electoral votes for the dem candidate right off the bat. Sanford needs national experience more than he currently holds or he is going to end up like McCain. Now if he can do something nationally before 2012, that might help him. Palin will be somewhere important in 2012, she has too many supporters for her to be ignored. Romnay has increased his chances. Huckabee is increasing his chances. Jindal might make a move, we do not know. Pawlenty is a possible candidate. Duncan Hunter is still a plausible candidate.

[tyler sims]

Michael,

Thanks for the feedback but honestly elections are won on emotions and meeting the perceived needs of the people.

The person has to be the candidate for the moment. The issue from the next few election will be economics and nothing else....will touch this issue. McCain knew nothing about economics by his own words and this buried him. But now Obama has everything stacked against him and a very desperate nation not willing to wait if he doesnt deliver.

The primary process brings out the candidates. Palin will need to show herself through the primary if she really wants to run this time. In terms of the northeast its been since reagan that we honestly had any say on a chance in the northeast. With the destruction of the party there one needs to hold the line first before worrying about going after votes in unfriendly territory.

Only a candidate of the people will stand a chance in the New Northeast. Republicans cant win there against solid opponents most likely. But in the midwest the tables are turned and in favor of a Sanford and republicans. That will be the future battle from here on out. No way on Sanford ending up like mccain...mccain was his own worst nightmare with the old guard party leadership. He started in a major hole with his own party. That hasnt happened ever in my lifetime and maybe never before. Very different terms any candidate and McCain. Palin is not ready and would be wasted if she ran in 2012. We need her groomed and ready for a clinton run if it every happens. Romney's background in this time would make him pretty hated by the general public. This issue was serious vetted and a serious concern during the election process. Something that would allow him to be sec. of commerce but not president until the common small business and common man is back on their feet. Huckabee is the logical partner with Sanford on first blush. Its possible that you see a huckabee and sanford team that would make a great deal of common person sense.

JIndal is not ready, Pawlenty might be a vp choice if he could really give forth Minn. or not remains to be seen given what transpired in the US senate race i wouldnt be so sure. Hunter doesnt have the hunger he should to take on his opponents, even though he is fantastic on paper.

Huckabee, Palin, Sanford and Jindal on paper battling it out makes a lot of sense.

But in the end for President its huckabee and sanford that make sense, Palin in the cabinet and Jindal waiting for the next run to be Palin's VP if a clinton run happens and huckabee and sanford actually dont pull things off as hoped.

Michael Brennan said:

How can Sanford win if half the country doesn't know him or care about him. In the Northeast and midwest Sanford is marginal at best. You are looking at close to 120-180 electoral votes for the dem candidate right off the bat. Sanford needs national experience more than he currently holds or he is going to end up like McCain. Now if he can do something nationally before 2012, that might help him. Palin will be somewhere important in 2012, she has too many supporters for her to be ignored. Romnay has increased his chances. Huckabee is increasing his chances. Jindal might make a move, we do not know. Pawlenty is a possible candidate. Duncan Hunter is still a plausible candidate.

[Dennis Acton]

Great video, there is a huge faction in the Republican party that longs for a candidate who stands for true fiscal conservative values, limited, constitutional governement and personal freedom. We need to win control of the party back from big government neocons immediately or the GOP will become the permanent minority party!

[Jason]

Excellent post, Dennis. I totally agree!