Too Whom it may concern

[roder russo]

If ths group is gong to take advise from the likes of Colin Powel, John McCain, senators Graham, Spercter, Hagel, Collons etc etc, please remove me from your data base

[Cowboy]

Well if that is your reaction at this stage of "rebuilding", then you probablly should cut n run now. It is obvious that you are not interested in rebuilding, only another that wants to scream and shout while running in place.
You can remove yourself by cancelling your account.

[Michael Brennan]

Are the people you listed Republicans? If they are then they have an equal say in the party as you do and should NOT be kicked out just because we disagree with them.

[roder russo]

If your and Cowboys reply to my post represt the minset of this group, I will surely opt out. That said, FYI, I've been a member and supporter of the conservative Republican party for over 40 years and have watch the demise of the party thought the abandoment of its core principals for the past 6 years. I was invited to join this group to rebuild the party, and in my humble opinion that can only take place if the party goes back to its core principals. In that regard I can assure you it does not include aministy for illegal allients, and certainly there is no room for a senior party leader who abandoned the party in suport of the most (documented) liberal member of congress for president. We lost the 06 congressional elections and the presideital election because our base stayed home. Reasonalbe people can disagree, but the debate should be based on facts. If this party does not go back to its core principals the liberal democrats will run the country for a long long time.

[Cowboy]

Well pardner if you think we are going to beg you to stay you are sadly mistaken. If your very first post in here is a threat to leave, then you probably didn't really want to be here in the first place. Rebuilding this party requires some sticktoitness, not chant I quit every time you disagree with something. Hell it sounds like a 3rd grader in the playground and won't play unless he gets the ball. The odds are that at this stage of the game, there is going to be alot of disagreeing. Disagreeing is fine and a norm. Being disagreeable while doing it isn't.

We are looking for Republicans who are not quitters and want to DO something to get our party back. Now suck it up and either help us out, or close the door behind you.

roder russo said:

If your and Cowboys reply to my post represt the minset of this group, I will surely opt out. That said, FYI, I've been a member and supporter of the conservative Republican party for over 40 years and have watch the demise of the party thought the abandoment of its core principals for the past 6 years. I was invited to join this group to rebuild the party, and in my humble opinion that can only take place if the party goes back to its core principals. In that regard I can assure you it does not include aministy for illegal allients, and certainly there is no room for a senior party leader who abandoned the party in suport of the most (documented) liberal member of congress for president. We lost the 06 congressional elections and the presideital election because our base stayed home. Reasonalbe people can disagree, but the debate should be based on facts. If this party does not go back to its core principals the liberal democrats will run the country for a long long time.

[Matt Perek]

Excellent: "I''ve been a member and supporter of the conservative Republican party for over 40 years and have watch the demise of the party thought the abandoment of its core principals for the past 6 years." -Roder

I'm guessing we need to change strategery if after 40 years you don't understand that the GOP needs to change its core principals to be relevant and effective in this century.

More: "We lost the 06 congressional elections and the presideital election because our base stayed home." -roder

Well, if we don't develop a new base we will lose all the elections to come, 'cause our 'base' will be dead.

[roder russo]

You folks don't get it, our success was based on core principals, small goverment, low taxes, now you want to change the core principals, its not me that needs to leave the party , I will repeat myself, it's the colin Powels, McCains., Hagels, Specters, et all who "Can't we just get along" as opposed to the Newt Gingrich, Rongald Regan Conservatives...Those of you who are responding to my posts sound exactly like the RHINO's in Washington who've runied the party.....I have not figured out who the leadership is in this forum, and or what the agenda is, but if it's for a change of conservative princiapals, no problem I will ceratinly opt out, and for what it's worth, the base willjnot be dead, I spenda lot of time with the Young College Republicans, and they will be around for a long time. I suggest those of you who are looknig for change to join with Obama and company, I'll keep my consercative values, integerity.

[Whitehorse (Robin Ray)]

Roder, I'm part of the group & have been promoting restoring the conservative 3-legged stool since I signed up. Instead of leaving, get in & promote conservatism. Threatening to leave is not going to impress anyone.

Matt, we don't need to change any of our core principles - we need leaders, candidates, & representatives who can communicate them with passion & stick to them.

[roder russo]

No problem, I'm not threating to leave, just trying to figure out if I belong here or not, and based on what I've heard its apparent that I don't belong in this group. It appears that this is the "can we just all get along"

Good luck, and I will get out of your hair



Whitehorse (Robin Ray) said:

Roder, I'm part of the group & have been promoting restoring the conservative 3-legged stool since I signed up. Instead of leaving, get in & promote conservatism. Threatening to leave is not going to impress anyone.

Matt, we don't need to change any of our core principles - we need leaders, candidates, & representatives who can communicate them with passion & stick to them.

[Michael Brennan]

First off, yes I AM a conservative and no one is able to change that determination,
Second, we are NOT the full base of the party nor can we demand it because it will not work.
Third, yes we do need to change directions and become more like what Teddy Roosevelt and Ronald Reagan was.
Do not forget Ronald Reagan was friends with extreme Liberal Speaker of the House Tip O'Neal and because of that he caught less grief than what G. W. Bush or Obama will.
Fourth, out of the GOP i would have to guess that conservatives make up about 55% of the party. See in the North East and North West Moderate Republicans win elections, conservatives do not. We have to wake up to that reality or we lose more states.

Now if you stay we can work together even if we may not see eye to eye.

[Cowboy]

ditto

Michael Brennan said:

First off, yes I AM a conservative and no one is able to change that determination,
Second, we are NOT the full base of the party nor can we demand it because it will not work.
Third, yes we do need to change directions and become more like what Teddy Roosevelt and Ronald Reagan was.
Do not forget Ronald Reagan was friends with extreme Liberal Speaker of the House Tip O'Neal and because of that he caught less grief than what G. W. Bush or Obama will.
Fourth, out of the GOP i would have to guess that conservatives make up about 55% of the party. See in the North East and North West Moderate Republicans win elections, conservatives do not. We have to wake up to that reality or we lose more states.

Now if you stay we can work together even if we may not see eye to eye.

[Matt Perek]

I'm very conservative on many issues and believe that is the future of the GOP. However, those of you who advocate a GOP based on nostalgia for Roosevelt and Reagan need a reality check. Its been a hundred plus years since Roosevelt and 28 since Reagan took office. If your idea of rebuilding the GOP is to look to the past than Obama has a bright future indeed. Obama won on a promise of a better future, not harking back to FDR and Kennedy.

Conservative values should be the centerpiece of our party, but surrounding it with old ideas is not going to win elections.

The GOP suffers from a bad image: racist, rich, and out of touch. If you can change that perspective you are on the right path for the future.

[Michael Brennan]

Cowboy,
You and I seem to see eye to eye pretty much. I look forward to helping you and others rebuild this party.

Win one for the Gipper!